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Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 13 2011, 8:04 PM EDT
Double tribal council, who are the 2 unlucky folks whose days are numbered? and will Matt continue his reign on Redemption Island or will he finally admit defeat and give up and go home? Tune in and find out....
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#1hotchfan |
1. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 13 2011, 8:39 PM EDT
Wow, this is the worst tribal division at the merge I ever remember seeing! Downright nasty and paranoid!
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12345spicy |
2. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 12:40 AM EDT
This is easily the most boring season to date and a reason why pitting a veteran against newbies doesn't work and hopefully won't be thrown at us again...Rob's team wouldn't react the same way if he weren't in the game...It is actually painful to watch...why not rename it the Rob show..I know Jeff's in bed with Rob but this is ridiculous...it's almost as if the entire team was chosen with him in mind....I mean you are starving...and this yoyo tells you not to eat and you don't...really...no absolute way...Cult was the best word out of this hour and finally Julie threw it in...maybe Rob's team will wake up to the fact that there is money at the end of the game...my only hope is that someone ...anyone comes out of Redemption Island to do some damage...I had hoped Matt would have previously and look what happened...but if he is our only hope...I'll go with it..please anything...to make this game perk up with blindsides...trickery..get Rob out of the game...please!
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WIDDA |
3. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 6:44 AM EDT
"Don't drink the Kool-aid" sure came to mind watching this episode!! What a travesty this season is coming to be - I'm so disgusted. :( I'm holding out hope that one of the people who are sent to Redemption Island will come back and kick some arse - and wipe that smile off Rob's face. I loved it when Grant did take a taste of the fish but even then he was scared to actually sit down and EAT it. They're practically starving and they pass on food? What the h3ll is wrong with these people? They're idiots! Rob put something in their water? No. He just promised each one of them top three at a different time and they all bought it I'd be willing to bet from that one bit of footage we received last night when he said he'd actually take Natalie & Phillip as his two for final three; he's made some deals.Where the heck is Mike? They showed David arriving at Redemption Island but not Mike - where's Mike? No RI for him? Phillip is a cagey guy and I think he could be the dark horse in this battle that no one is betting on - the man might surprise us. He's not as crazy as he's pretending he is - that alone is scary, isn't it? I think his badgering David was to get inside David's head and he did it; he did get up and help David when David was faltering coming out. That surprised me at first then I realized he'd been trying to get him out of the game-pure mind games. Phillip might be Rob's undoing and Rob doesn't know it - that would make my day as I've come to truly want Rob to go down in blazing glory. Up until now I was on the fence about Rob, now I want him gone! Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 9:00 AM EDT
Last nights episode really showed how cocky Rob has become. The only difference between Rob and Russell is that Rob is thinking ahead to what the jury might do. Russell didn't appear to ever think of that! This split amongst the tribe might be a good move on Rob's part, but it reminds me of what is going on in our own Congress - and I don't want to be constantly reminded of them. This antagonism is foolish and does not make for enjoyable viewing. I am still waiting for Grant and hopefully Mike to begin making a move to oust Rob. It is going to take the men, because the girls are star struck. I am agreeing with WIDDA that Phillip could be the dark horse and he is playing a waiting game. Is it all an act ?? I am beginning to think it is.
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12345spicy |
5. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 12:40 PM EDT
Wow...could Phillip be one of the dark horses...even as he shares his loyalty as his biggest assest?? Remains to be seen...whatever will take Rob out...I'm rooting for...what the other team should have done is make a fake idol and hide it and pretend to dig for it...especially as Rob's team came rolling over with their shovels.....I would have rolled over on that one...at the very least Julie should be looking for an immunity idol instead of just wating to be voted out...
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12345spicy |
6. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 12:43 PM EDT
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WIDDA |
7. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 2:13 PM EDT
Phillip is astute enough to realize that speaking up will only have him beheaded & off to RI before he's ready; as it now stands he has a really good chance of final three with Rob & can work to get rid of Rob when the time is right. He'll have his chance. Rob didn't deprive his team of fish - he caught fish less than a half hour before those fish were brought in by the other tribe so he felt it was a needless chance to take when they already had plenty of rice & food on hand and weren't going hungry. Saw it in a deleted scene on once of the sites. So I will take back what I said about them going hungry. But their following him like a leader is crazy! Are they going to follow him to the bank? Is he going to disperse the winnings?? What are these people thinking? At least Phillip is speaking about how he's just biding his time! Thank goodness one of them is thinking strategy besides Rob. As for the Zapatera people, I just don't see them trying all that hard - get up and follow them. When they move, follow no matter where they go. Eventually someone will go without a buddy as no one sticks to a buddy system all the time - when they stray, there's your chance and you have to be ready. Next week's episode is supposed to be one of the best tribal councils in all 22 seasons. Hope it's because someone from RI came back and gets revenge! :) Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 14 2011, 3:13 PM EDT
"Phillip is astute enough to realize that speaking up will only have him beheaded & off to RI before he's ready; as it now stands he has a really good chance of final three with Rob & can work to get rid of Rob when the time is right. He'll have his chance.Grant went over and ate the fish...so really doesn't matter if they ate previously...the fact that Rob called him away and Grant followed is what was distressing....I certainly hope TC revs it up next week... Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 15 2011, 11:11 PM EDT
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Rob getting rid of Matt was the right thing to do. Think about it he came to me and told me that he was going to flip AND take ANDREA with him but decided not to I would immediately become paranoid. He had not back long before Zapatera pounced on him and they had him too but then he prayed on it and according to MATT he was given a sign by god not to.Um ok but these signs so far have steered him wrong. Matt acts like he doesn't believe in free will (even though he has one he keeps saying he is there for god's purpose which is to win.... ok but the god that I know about - from every religion would never approve of playing a game for money where you have to be sneaky, lie & stab your buddy in the back! Matty's in denial - he's there because HE wanted to play,not god) And I'm sure he would've flipped after spending a few days with the others because he is so easily manipulated. MATT also assumed ANDREA wanted to go with him when she clearly was upset that he included her in the conversation he had with RALPH & MIKE without even talking to her first. I wonder if Matt thought god wanted him to do that too? he 's just so ridiculous.... "My god wants this for me" and "I'm just a vessel for his work". What work MATT? Seriously? he thinks god helping him win this game is "god's work"? Kinda arrogant to assume his winning is that important to god. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 15 2011, 11:21 PM EDT
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So who would it benefit the most? Because there's no doubt this is about money. Yet, I haven't heard a single word from Matt about who he would help if he won the money or who is he playing for? Is it the poor or homeless? How about single mothers or sick children? or some disease that desperately needs research funding or delivery of medicine to to another country. and he's never said exactly what this so called "work" of god's really is. But he has mentioned that school is very expensive...... I think MATT likes to fall back on his religion in order to not accept responsibility for having his own needs and desires. It's as if he thinks its bad to have them - which probably has to do with his indoctrination. Its also a common theme in church groups to make their members feel "special" and that they are a part of something bigger. but people outside of that group are not entitled......Without knowing it, Matt weaves a lot of hypocrisy into his righteousness.
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11. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 16 2011, 8:36 AM EDT
"Rob getting rid of Matt was the right thing to do. Think about it he came to me and told me that he was going to flip AND take ANDREA with him but decided not to I would immediately become paranoid. He had not back long before Zapatera pounced on him and they had him too but then he prayed on it and according to MATT he was given a sign by god not to.Nicely said ! For some people it is always easier to blame someone else rather than yourself. I suppose people like that never feel any guilt. Do you find this valuable? |
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12345spicy |
12. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 17 2011, 7:10 PM EDT
There's alot to agree with in your post Mystic...I will say that Matt is still very young and still on the path...with life experiences, success and failures...he'll eventually settle into a more refined position with his faith....at the very least we would hope for his sake or he'll be very disappointed.' Do you find this valuable? |
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mystical_pippin |
13. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 18 2011, 5:02 AM EDT
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but there's a lot you disagree with me on too? :-)) ha ha! That's ok my friend it wouldn't be interesting if we all agreed - hey here's a shocker. I agree with you completely about Matt. I didn't want to paint him as a bad character I was trying to make a point about some religious groups who basically twist the purpose of having it in your life. Brainwashing kids to grow up with unrealistic fantasies about what god is. It gets my gander up! In fact, I'll go a step further & say it makes me sick.They teach them to believe strongly that god is in control of every aspect of their lives and they should be devout above & beyond the call of duty - they dangle candy in front of the kids by promising them they'll reap the rewards (in life and after it) making god out to be some kind of wish granting fairy who rewards the "elite" few who put his will first above everything else. (a contradiction because nobody can read god's mind let alone know his will) They turn these kids into automatons to pass on their indoctrination to the world - a hypocrisy because they consider themselves the chosen elite who will be rewarded for their devotion. Not only does it have the opposite effect on people - (like we're all supposed to feel comfortable about having strangers come to our door to talk to us about being "saved") but it turns these kids into social misfits because of their inability to deal with people in a non-religious way. Instead they become outcasts and are shunned or laughed at when - cont. -
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mystical_pippin |
14. RE: Discuss Redemption Island, Episode 9 here
Apr 18 2011, 6:48 AM EDT
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they whip out the good book to do a prayer session at inappropriate times, i.e. your sitting in the quad between classes trying to cram because your next class is having a test that you couldn't study for the night before due to whatever.... but instead of offering to help you cram its "hey lets read the bible and pray on it" as the solution! um ok that will help you how? You'll suddenly remember all the correct answers or it will it make the teacher blind to the ones you got wrong? Either way it's a fantasy and not logical therefore inappropriate and selfish because they just wasted your time & caused you to focus on something completely different (unless your next class is bible study!) People raised the way Matt was are never taught to socialize with non-christians or accept reality. They live in a bubble of religious preaching that does nothing more than breed intolerance and judgement of other lifestyles. They only talk about faith, or preach scriptures to others. They're trained to be the church's disciples. Matt's indoctrination appears to have total control too. He doesn't see that he comes off as arrogant or self righteous to others when he talks. He doesn't see that he sounds crazy when he claims to be god's vessel, doing whatever "his god" wants. It isn't his fault and this is why it makes me mad because he's just an innocent kid that's been under the control of his church peers. He never had a choice. Hopefully in time as he grows older he will, like you said mature & calm his need to constantly bring up his faith. He will have to because nobody wants to hear their doctor tell them, "lets pray but if It's god's will that you have this disease.... there's nothing I can do..." That's not the kind of faith you want to instill in your patients! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |